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HullFootball Manager 2009 Tactics – My Best One
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If you are seeking Football Manager 2010 tactics then I advise you to take a look at my asymmetric one used for Leeds.
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Preamble: Consider this post as New Year present! 
First of all you should know: Football Manager 2009 tactics that I want to present you was migrated from 4-1-4-1 Southampton Home Tactics. It’s completely described in that post. Therefore I would like to present you only differences between old successive FM 2008 tactics and new adapted FM 2009 tactics. And you can just compare both variants.
Pay attention that successful adaptation was done only for the attacking variant (4-1-4-1 Southampton Home Tactics). 4-1-4-1 Southampton Away Tactics wasn’t working fine for me. So I decided to reject it and try to create a new approach for away matches.
Formation
There are some notable changes comparing with screen of FM2008 tactics that I used for Southampton. But all of them are just because of arrows system’s change (in FM2009 arrows were linked with Forward Runs instructions, if you don’t know). So don’t mind about that 
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Team instructions
Compare this screen and old team instructions. 3 changes here.
The most important one is about new value of Focus Passing setting. Now my team acts more down both flanks because it’s more efficient approach in Football Manager 2009. I found out this after all my experiments with tactics and all analysis of AI tactics during matches 
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Turned on Play Offside is also new feature of this tactics. But I would advice you to turn it off if your defenders don’t possess good speed, acceleration and team work.
Free Kicks were changed to Best Header but for a while I haven’t seen any reasonable changes during free kicks in the last matches. So it’s not important change.
Individual instructions
Goalkeeper (GK)
The only change in comparison to FM 2008 tactics. I changed Distribution to Defender Collect. And set a right defender as a target for this action. I like the way how it works in Football Manager 2009.
DC, DR, DL, MRC, FC
All the same.
Defensive Midfielder (DMC)
Defensive midfields stands on a near post during attacking corners. It will results in some goals from him. But he should have good values of Jumping and Strength for that.
Left Central Midfielder (MLC)
Small but quite significant change: Long Shots are set from Often to Mixed because players in FM 2009 strike Long Shots too often with low percentage of accuracy.
Wingers (AMR, AML)
One but very important change here! Cross Ball was set to Rarely. And in combination with team passing focused by the flank it results in the perfect effect:
1. Winger gets ball on a flank.
2. He moves down the flank and don’t do cross when reaches the line.
3. He begins to dribble to the box and only after that makes decision: pass or shoot.
3a. If winger decides he has one more option apart from team-mates in the box – it’s about flank defender who joins attack and is uncovered at that moment being on the corner of the box.
In short, wingers play more important role in this FM 2009 tactics than in the old FM 2008 variant. Therefore the should have high Dribbling, Speed, Passing, Technique, Flair. Cuts Inside PPM is great to have as well.
Good values of Finishing and Composure are advised not only for wingers but also for flank backs. Because flank back will have opportunities to shoot being uncovered after winger delivers ball to him.
Using tactics in away matches
In the most of all matches in Coca-Cola Championship I don’t do changes in this attacking tactics. This is because 50 percents of opponents in this league are perceptibly weaker than Hull. But in the matches with more strong teams this approach doesn’t work. We are missing too many attacks and counter attacks. And obviously it will be worse in the Premier League. Therefore I’m forced to do changes for away matches with high skilled teams.
I do only few things that increase performance of my team:
- set Counter Attacks;
- play with Defensive Line setting it deeper.
Links to download my FM 2009 tactics
Well, that’s all folks! Happy New Year! 
Thank you!! I'm Blackburn right now after getting new update and I will try this tactic as I am trying to score goals. Just to ask, is that home or away?
GL with Hull!!!!
Is this tactic tested on 9.2.0 patch? I`ll give it a try in my Red Star game;)
Cheers!
WHAT ABOUT TRAINING.WHAT ARE U USING? IS IT EFFECTIVE?
,CAN WE GET DE SCHEDUELS THAT YOU HAVE?
Happy New Year Mate!!!!!! All The Best!
Hey m8. Thanks for this! Using it with Walsall at the moment and it seems to be working quite well!
happy new year Vitaliy!!!
i wish you all the best with Hull and in your personal life as well :)
greetings from a long time reader from Croatia!
(*practically addicted to your blog hehe*)
This is working really well for me at the moment, got off to a great start with Southampton (With no new signings, just a few loans). Currently 11th or 12th with about 6 games to go. If I didn't change tactics though out the season I think I would have made the play offs.
Thanks very much :D
Looks good. Maybe I'll give it a try if my Chester tactic will stop working.
Yes, this tactics is working on patch 9.2 in the game I'm playing now
Alex Weil,
I use almost the same trainings as were used for Arsenal.
I don't have too much progress because of average quality of some coaches.
Just tried the tactic. The wingers was playing very good. Also i had goals from counter attacks. Thank you vitaliy :)
Great blog! I'm definitely going to try out these tactics with my Sheffield United side. Cheers.
i am a long time supporter of your blog and enjoy it to read.
i am player of football manager, i also play fifa manager - do you know of any similra websites like yours for fifa manager??
thanks for your great work!!
I am download patch 920 but after that my fm2009 can't running again and it's must have the product key that I haven't find in my fm2009 disc. Can anyone give me the product key.. Thank you
Anonymous,
I don't know about FIFA Manager :)
OK, it`s a fine tactics indeed. I have played over 10 matches with it and not a single defeat. Although the opponents in Serbian Super Liga are quite weak, I managed to knockout Club Brugge (1:1 away, 1:0 home), and get a draw (2:2) against Deportivo at Riazor.
This tactics utilises wingers to the max, but the striker is constantly underachieving. He scored one or two goals in these 10 matches. Are you using quick or strong stikers on this position? I have tried both types, but the results are preety much the same - they are not scoring goals.
gr8 tactic m8 but have u got any recommendations for staff?
also im with relegation fighters swansea and cos were fightin relagation we got no moneyso can u reccomend any good, young players for less than 100k?
Tried it, lpool away to villa, went 2 down in 35 mins, lost 3-2.
Excellent tactic! I have been struggling with Liverpool for 2 seasons now. I had a great squad, but too many draw games. Changed to this tactic in february and beat Real Madrid, Inter, Man Utd and Chelsea to win the Champions League.
My biggest problem is that my players (Torres, Babel) seldom scores one-on-one with the goalkeeper. Any suggestions?
hi guys, i have a question: do u think that training should be changed in matchdays (reduce from for example medium to light) ? for example you match is on SATRURDAY, now you re on FRIDAY 15:00 and you have ussual training effort (between medium and hard), its better to reduce before saturdas match or it has no affect on players fomr ? i thinh it HAS affect . thanks for answer. if anybody has some good example
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shit mate you've become a fm legend!!
i'm getting a bit stressed with the new game, i dont think the laptop can take another punch to the screen..
anyway, i have been using the 'true football manager possession football' tactic and its not working, just downloaded the new one (4141) so am hoping it works.. if not i'll need a new computer by the end of the week
Riz
DeCoy,
centre forward should be versatile like Ibragimovic - it's the best case.
Preferred Moves "Shoots with Power", "Moves into Channels", "Tries Tricks" will be certainly useful.
Riz,
yep, possession tactics was used only for Football Manager 2008. And I suspected that it doesn't work in FM 09
Ey wusup dude... i just want to know what i can do to win in 2009 cause ive tryd my old tactics (2008) and nothing works even when i take really good teams lyk Man utd ect... pls help cause i cant play 2009 cause i just lose all the time
Good..but i think its more important to have an very good finisher in the front!
in my case i have only pacey strikers so dont work for me :P
Hey. My names Rob and I have been using your tactic as Bristol City. After 17 games I am going well so far. I am 2nd and I have only lost once. I'm only a couple of points behind Reading. Your tactic really does get the best out the wingers. Mcindoe and Sproule have set up a few and scored and got plenty MOM's. I just wish Sproule could finish on the game :(. He'd have like 15 goals I reckon lol
I applied your tactic and now I have won BPL plus FA cup and only lost to Real Madrid because of Fabregas got sent off. Super tactic especially when you have Robin v Persie and Theo Walcott as your wingers
Hi, how do i save this file? its sayin its a tac file and to find program to open it with?? thanks Ger
You shoud "Import" it in Football Manager 2009 game. Tactics screen allows you to "Edit" your tactics calling special dialog. On that dialog you can find Import button
Not working... three games into the season as Crystal Palace I have lost all three, conceding six goals and scoring two.
This is exactly how Barcelona play now, and as much as I try, I cannot make them the winning machine they are in real life. My Strikers are extremely poor, Xavi doesn't play well, even messi isnt good enough...can you give me some advice.
Anonymous with Crystal Palace, it will not work so easy. Try to tune your squad for tactics and test it for half of season at least.
Hey Vitaly, this is really important! Would u like to join me and a few more friends on Football manager 2009 Network mode? It's where about 5 of us all choose a team and basically play the game but all together!! It's amazing and really 'adds' to the game! Anyone else who is reading this anyway Add my msn - Dean_from_southampton@hotmail.co.uk
Also, If u are interested but dont know how to do it, dont worry I can teach u how and it's really easy and simple! Thanks!
Deano
Danny
So for away games what do you do..?
just the same as your 08 away tactics for southamton as well as the counter attack and bring back the defensive line..?
Thanks and good luck with hull keep us posted how your doing..:D
Deano,
I would but unfortunately I have no time for that. You see I have been playing my Hull game pretty slowly. It's just because I have much other work to do for earning money.
Network mode takes too much time - I know this from my experience :)
Danny McKay,
I use this tactics for away matches as well. But if my players start allowing attacks, I try to set up Counter Attack, change Defensive Line and Mentality.
At the moment I haven't found a good combination of these 3 team settings for away matches. Moreover, it happens often when home tactics works perfectly in an away match without changes.
Vitaliy,
thanks for the tactic (and other useful info on your blog).
I am using it with shrewsbury in coca cola league 2 and it works well most of the time at home.
I am trying to adapt it for away games (as Shrewsbury are a weak team and lose away) and also a "control" version of it as described in the "tactical theorems and framework" (TT&F) document.
did you base the tactic on the TT&F document or is it entirely your own creation?
I will let you know if i successfully adapt it for away matches for weaker teams and post a link to it. (if you have already done so please let me know!!)
Beardeye
these tatics rock!!!
im with chelsea at the moment and thaks to u tatics i manged to win epl fa cup league and final of cl
your actually a fm 09 legend
ive been studying football manager for a couple of years and come to realise that unlike Championship manager you cannot use gung-ho as your playing mentality. gung-ho makes the game alot easier, so, if you want to know how to use gung-ho in your tactics keep reading. Set your mentality to normal just above denfensive, passing stly to direct play a quick tempo and concentrate play down the flanks. This is as close as you can get to Gung-ho. By the way, if your mentality is set to attacking, unless you have a good defence, you will leak goals....
beardeye,
unfortunately I had no time to read TT&F document. Though I downloaded it one month ago but haven't still even opened .
So the tactics is created and based only on my private experience.
TNX!!
I cant seem to download the tactic from any of those two links,it would be swell if you could send it too `finestmeat@hotmail.com`
Thankyou!!
Do you think these tactics would work for tottenham?
When I Try And Download It I Get An Annoying Thingy-Ma-Bob Saying It Kind Find It, Any Help?
Thanks.
For barcelona team:-
Give Xavi crative freedom and attacking "full"!
Give Messi creative freedom "much" and
closing down "whole pitch" with "free role". Give attacking full both to Messi .
These are the best ways to utilise Xavi and Messi in game!
dude... i gotta say, your tactic gives me a lot of goals from corners. I bought Darijo Srna for Man City and have him take corners. Micah Richards Scored 25 goals on our first season.
My leeds team play this formasion and carnt lose they have lost only 1nc and won 12 times but drawn 7 i really need some more goad scoring power could u recommed any1 for cheap
Crap.
Just imported this tactic, played Derby with Rotherham and lost 3-0.
Is this tactic just for championship teams? What's a good tactic for Coca Cola League 2?
Your Corner tactics are perfect ihave only played three games but Dunne has scored 4.
Cheers :)
Anonymous,
tactics will not work so easy. You should tune up your players to it. Some time should pass. You cannot win all games from the very first match using new tactics
What kind of changes do u do to your tactic for away games or against "the top 4" i read u saying move defensive lines to deeper, but by how much?
also any ideas on how to stop my loan front man being marked to death?
other than that team seems to like it at the moment
Ive used this formation & tactics with my Arsenal team but have carried on doing poorley!! Really need a good formation & tactics because i finished 9th in my first season and now im 8th in my second with just a few games played and i feel ill be sacked soon if we dont start being consistant!!! please help
Anonymous,
I haven't still find optimal away tactics. At the moment I have two variants that I use.
Actually, the one is against such top clubs as Man Utd or Arsenal.
I move my wingers on one position down in the formation. Then I set counter-attacks and defensive line to the lowest values.
hi im using this tactic wiv a team i created called inter milandport and in the 1st 8 games ive played ive scored 22 goals n only conceded 3 man ur a legend must take while gettin them perfect but worth the effort cheers :D
On screen present Max Pashaev. In real, Max is dead. :( RIP
Hey Vitaliy- i looked at loads of TT&F tactics but didnt have any luck with them. I have gone back to yours as it simple and effective!
Do you amend the tactic during the match, i.e lower tempo if being closed down too much, or change winger crossing to often, or do you just leave it the same all match?
Great blog by the way!!
Yes, Max Pashaev, rest in peace...
Beardeye,
no I don't do the things that you enumerated. At least in home matches.
In away games I'm trying to experiment. But all experiments go with temporary success.
can u give me the best both home and away tactics..im pretty desperate actually..im manging tottenham.
mulegoi struggle art FM09 and have finally decided to download your tactics..
just a recommendation how about you build a tactic set?, with a defense, control,balanced, attack and SUS. I know I'm asking for allot, but you strike me as the the only guy in the world who can really pull it off!!
It will help so many struggling Fm user, including myself!
What kind of striker do u recommend for this tactic?
Roque santa cruz
daniel sturridge
robinho
fernando torres
they have to be able to beat the offside trap
ahmad,
I don't have Away tactics that would be so wonderful as this one for home matches. I'm still experimenting with away tactics
Anonymous,
I recommend to use quick, technical striker with high Off The Ball attribute value who posses PPM "Shoots ball with power"
Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you feel, but I find FM09 very, very frustrating - even with the patches.
I'm Grindavik of Iceland, no advisable tactics work. The opposition score when:
a) I pause the game or make a sub.
b) I'm 4-0 up with 5 mins to go - they win 5-4.
c) Most goals are conceded are about 62 and 87 mins mark.
Worst part was, according to the commentary I had a corner, ball flighted in - they score! wtf??
I also find it unresponsive and very slow. I'm also scared to make a sub incase I get beat!
any ideas before I reert to CM08?
Grrrr.
Stephen- I agree. I have found FM 09 very frustrating. I often take the lead in the game (i use Vitaliy's tactic)but the AI seems to easily equalise and/or score a winner.
I think the AI is a lot better at switching tactics during the match and this makes it more difficult.
I dont have FM 08 but I may buy it!!
re Beardeye:
Hi sir,
I was using Vitaliy's training methods @ GLA Rangers and Grindavik, they work a treat. The whole site is fantastic.
However, the 4-1-4-1 tactic didn't work with Rangers either, and I was put out the cup by an amateur team.
I've started playing a 4-1-3-1-1 with Grindavik and I seem to be getting results, not league winning, but enough to prop up the table.
With the AI, I think it could be a major glitch, not so much evovling, just being pernickety ie ''your teams only fifth best, so you cant win tonight.''
Great site guys - keep up the good work!
Stephen,
Glasgow
www.manonplatform13.blogspot.com
First i just want to say, i love your site !! and you are a FM09 legend.
The new tactics work great, i play tromsø wich is one of the top teams in norway. i rarely loose but i play alot draws, im currently second after 20 matches played. just wondering if u have any tips on how i can increase my scoring during second half of the game, i always score 1 or 2 goals in the first half, but in the second the oppositions always score more than me and it ends up as a draw..
really good tactic im with newcasle second in the league final of the league cup 5 round fa cup first knock out round in euro cup and it all because of your tattic thanks mate
p.s good luck with hull
hi Vitaly
i going try this tactic, do you use oposition instruction?
OMG!
Right I'm Rangers in my first season and I am controlling Scottish football as I am domestically unbeaten.
Although I have quite a weak/small squad I get away with good results playing 4-2-3-1. (Flat back four, two MC's, an AMC, AML/AMR & a striker).
Yet when it came to Europe, different sport altogether.
Sporting Lisbon in UEFA Cup last 16 and could not get a result no matter what! So I began searching for tactics all over the web and now.. well this is something special. You have saved my season.
Thank-You.
EURO Cup 2nd Knockout Rnd Leg 2.
Full Time from Estadio Jose Alvalade Seculo XXI, Lisbon.
Sporting CP 0 - 3 Rangers
good tatic my mk dons tatic dosent work any more so i will try this one
Yes, I use opposition instructions. Usually I set up closing down and hard tackling against winger of opponent team. Sometimes - tight marking against quick forwards.
i said yesterday that i would try these tatctics for my mk dons team and there working well 4 wins 1 loss
Hey Vitaly, long time reader but first time poster :)
I used these tactics for a season and they were great with Southampton, but since I started a new game with QPR I made my own tactics and they work very well too :D So everyone, these tactics are great, but if you try and adapt them to your own team you will probably have more success?
Oh by the way I hope you dont mind if I post my QPR story link on some of your posts? No point doing it if no one reads it right!
http://footballmanager09story.blogspot.com/
Mike Aram,
Ok, but don't be to aggressive in posting links.
I am managing Leicester, this tactic worked great in league one, i won the league by 25 points.
It's just not doing it in the championship, here's my squad can anyone help me pick a good tactic.
Ben Foster GK
France/Opare DR
patrick Kisnorbo DC
Aleksandav Tunchev DC
Joey Mattock DL
Seyfo Soley DMC
Henry Lansbury MC
Nicy Adams MC
Lloyd Dyer AML
Darius Vassell AMR
Cameron Jerome ST
I also have Vokic DMC, Benjani ST. Plus a few more but they are just back up players.
Can anyone recommend a good tactic for these players or am i better of sticking to this tactic and investing in better players.
Any Suggestions?
Ok this is a good tactic which i have been using 6 seasons now in FM 2009 with ManU, but i had a really great problem with all my strikers, i have been changing strikers almost every season!!
Tbey don't score goals, they really suck in rating cause they play a game with 7.00 aver rat and then the other 10 games they struggle between 5.00-6.40!
Hey, i had played Arsenal with the 9.3.0 patch.
GK Fabianksi (Almunia Broke His Leg)
DEF Sanga-Toure-Djourou-Clichy/Gibbs
Mid Arshavin(7.60) Nasri (7.50) Fabregas (7.58) Walcott (7.60)
STR Van Persie and Eduardo
Won the leguea by 10 points, won league cup and Champions league, Runners up in FA cup.
Beat Liverpool 2-0, 5-1, Chelsea 3-0, 4-0, Man Utd 1-0 4-0.
I still try to find out the best personal instructions cause whomever i try to put him in FC position he sucks!! 9.3.0 here mate with my 7th season with Man Utd!!
Still all my strikers are really unstable!
Brillant Tatic. I used it to beat Bristol City As Bristol Rovers 2-1 in the FA Cup Fourth Round. Not a great result you may say. But I tried everything to win that game 10 restarts. Found this page and this tatic worked first time. Give it a go!!
Don't need to answer my previous question, it's all worked out.
I just bought in a quality defender cheap, stuck to the same tactics and i have just one the League cup 2-0 beating Everton, i am 2 nd in the champioship challenging West Ham for the title. I even knocked out Liverpool Reserves over 2 legs in the league cup.
So i agree with all of you this tactic is great, you just have to find the right players to play in each position.
I can't wait to get in the Premiere league, and want to see how my team performs in Europe next year.
My sincere thanks to the person that came up with this tactic.
how about squad harmony....what should i do to increase it???
can someone give any advice....thanks...
Hei. I prefere the 4-4-2 formation, do you have any hints or tips for a good tactical approach for this formation?
got to be the worst tactics I have ever had the misfortune of trying. started 2 identical games with the same friendlys with your tactics I lost 4 on the run with a premier league side against first second and no league opersition and even failed to score a goal. with my own tactics i won all 4 buy a country mile......
i am currently with arsenal and have won 3 european trophys in a row 2 carling cups and 1 fa cup and 3 premier leauges in a row
this is my tactic
CF
AMC AMC
ML MR
DL DC DC DR
GK
HOPE IT HELPS:)
for the good striker, i think the post player type one, I prefer pavel pogrebnyak,he's really good in the air,try that
This Tatic Is AMAZING!!! I was on a losing streak of 3 games with leicester and the press where critesising me for using 4-4-2 Tactics so i thought i would trie your tactic and it worked great, first match against top of the league we beat them 3-1.Thank you for your amazing tatics love this website btw :)
Thanks for the tactic its working great for me. Even though i altered it its based on your tactic so thanks. And another thing what was your first leauge position with hull? mine was 13th:)
Thanks from Iceland
Hi i was just wondering does this tactic and training work on the 9.0.3 patch??
Cheers fab site :)
um does it work for 9.3.0?
and also can this work if you play a strong striker have doesn't have too many technical attributes?
Guys, I have been using this tactics in my Hull (patch 9.3, of course - so it works for it). If you follow my story you should know the results.
Usage of strong forward is not really recommended because 2 winger forwards are instructed to cut inside. You can change their instructions to make them doing crosses
are you using the same tactics in season 3/4 as u used in season 1?....i find its not as efective in season 4 for me as it was in season 1.
the blue power ranger
I have been using this tactics since the 2nd season. No doubt for me that it's effective
Hi Im Arsenal on the game and i play preety much this tactic a good player for defensive midfield is angelo palombo of sampdoria. He should cost aboyt 13 million. I also brought Andrai Arshavin from zenit for 12 million and he is great on the wing!!!
I just started a new game as Arsenal and have been very active on transfers this time around. This time on tactics, instead of just using "Challenge GK" as the setting for my DLC on corners, I have both my DLC and DRC (Jagielka and Toure, respectively, with Djourou subbing) set as "challenge GK." As a result, in 12 games so far I have scored 9 times on corners with my central defenders: 4 for Jagielka in 10 games, 3 for Toure in 10 games, and 2 for Djourou who has 4 games, subbing twice for each of them. 9 goals from corners in 12 games from those three players alone is outstanding, so I'm tempted to tell a third player to challenge GK. The question is, which one?
how much money did you need to get all those players?
ok. these tactics are alright but your not thinking about focus passing. You should play wide football and focus pasing through the middle so the wide players pull out the midfeilders and then u play through the middle in all the space.
"ok. these tactics are alright but your not thinking about focus passing. You should play wide football and focus pasing through the middle so the wide players pull out the midfeilders and then u play through the middle in all the space. "
Barca style. I'll give it a try.
Hi. Im controling Newcastle at the moment in some patch where Newcastle has been relegated.
I found a tactic that worked very well in CCL but in EPL I have 6-4-6 record and 20-27 in goals wich is horrible.
I would like to try this tactic but Im having problem saving it to my db file.
Can you help me and do you know if this tactic is good in 9.3.0 patch?
Thx for a very good informations here.
Just found this page.
thanks for everything dude!
i´m winning every home game, but there´s no way i can make barcelona win away... i´m trying some new things...
any suggestions?
V.
Rosario, Argentina
Victor,
take off Run Forwards from wing backs and make Defensive Line deeper.
I usually do these things when I play away with complicated team.
thanks mate!
i´ll try it.
But i can tell you that i really hate the 9.3 patch hahahaha!!!
V.
Hey Vitaliy....can you tell me if this tactic will work with the lower league teams as well. I'm cuurently in the Blue Square Premier League. If not, do you have any that will?
ive got a lethal team on this but i cant seem to go anywhere with it, il hammer teams like liverpool and arsenal but get destroyed by wigan or tottenham...
my team is:
akinefeev, david luiz, ramos, chiellini, fabregas, de rossi, essien, david silva, messi, benzema and torres.
The formation is 1,3,3,2,2
what am i doing wrong and how can i become the best?
ive got a lethal team on this but i cant seem to go anywhere with it, il hammer teams like liverpool and arsenal but get destroyed by wigan or tottenham...
my team is:
akinefeev, david luiz, ramos, chiellini, fabregas, de rossi, essien, david silva, messi, benzema and torres.
The formation is 1,3,3,2,2
what am i doing wrong and how can i become the best?
Isn't this a standard formation given by fm09? It is a standard 4-3-3 tactics not 4-1-4-1. The only difference is that you change the arrow of their forward run.
Thank you so much this has worked fantastically well for me (liverpool) in the two matches i have played. Beat Zaragoza 3 - 0 and Vit. Guimaraes 5 - 0, both aren't great teams but to be fair i did have extremely weakened teams for both with around 5 players out for internationals and Steven Gerrard out injured along with Kuyt.
Hi, after tonnes off different tactics and approaches (2 seasons worth) i found this tactic almost by accident and its worked ever since. 3rd Season i won the league and FA cup and got to the semi's of the Champions League (where i was robbed). My team is as follows and this tactic works everytime!
Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Agger Insua
Mascherano
Gerrard Alonso
Bojan Guardado
Torres
CasketPtdLtd,
maybe formation is a standard one, but team and players instructions are absolutely unique
i'm currently managing spurs and spain...just wondering is this a good formation for a national team or do u use something different
the blue power ranger
My 3rd season with Leicester just finished and i have qualified for the champions league, finished 4th in the league.
this tactic has been awsome, i have climed straight to the premiere league won 2 league cups, 1 fa cup, 1 Euro Cup and won the league 1 title.
I think i got lucky with players as well, i signed some players i had never heard of and made them in to superstars. The most lucky thing was, man City became my parent club and they were sending brilliant players to me when i was in the championship.
Let's see what my
Hi FM friends, I'm Marko from Serbia and this is my first time to discous about FM over the internet, but hope to help some of U...
The best tactics stayed the same like on FM08, it is 4-1-2-1-2, with 1 Dmf, 2 Cmf and 1 Amf and 2 st ofcourse...
Here is why?
Wingers are very pricey and there are only few that play good. Don't mind the grade that they get, because they get for esc. 7.5 just for 2-3 good driblings and nothing else! Look at their more important stats, like key passes, shots on goal, assists, etc.
Also U'r amc who is natural on that possicion playes fantastic, but U have to be patient with him, and also with whole tactic because it needs time for U'r players to get learn how to play like that.
I play now with 3 friends Premier league, I'm Chelsea and offcourse they are Man Utd, L'pool and Arsenal, in the first season I won C. league and got just behaind Arsenal i Premiership.For esc. I won against Man. UTD 4-0... And my frien playes 4-4-2 with Ronaldo on right, and Christian Rodrigues and Nani on left flank, two CMs are De Rossi and Lass Diara, in front he has Villa, Amauri, Rooney,... He eawen brought Srna for RB! Yes and for GK he has Mandanda... In second season we are 5 rounds before end and I have 14points ahead of Arsenal...
here is my team:
gk: Cheh
rb: M. Richards (hope get Ramos)
lb: Cole
cb: Terry, Carvalio
dmc: Veloso
mc: Lampard, Essien (Lucho Gonzales)
amc: Kaka (but just got him in jan., Lampard, Deco and AGUERO played before him)
st: Drogba, Aguero, Robinho,(just got Ibarhimovic in jan.).
Hi FM friends, I'm Marko from Serbia and this is my first time to discous about FM over the internet, but hope to help some of U...
The best tactics stayed the same like on FM08, it is 4-1-2-1-2, with 1 Dmf, 2 Cmf and 1 Amf and 2 st ofcourse...
Here is why?
Wingers are very pricey and there are only few that play good. Don't mind the grade that they get, because they get for esc. 7.5 just for 2-3 good driblings and nothing else! Look at their more important stats, like key passes, shots on goal, assists, etc.
Also U'r amc who is natural on that possicion playes fantastic, but U have to be patient with him, and also with whole tactic because it needs time for U'r players to get learn how to play like that.
I play now with 3 friends Premier league, I'm Chelsea and offcourse they are Man Utd, L'pool and Arsenal, in the first season I won C. league and got just behaind Arsenal i Premiership.For esc. I won against Man. UTD 4-0... And my frien playes 4-4-2 with Ronaldo on right, and Christian Rodrigues and Nani on left flank, two CMs are De Rossi and Lass Diara, in front he has Villa, Amauri, Rooney,... He eawen brought Srna for RB! Yes and for GK he has Mandanda... In second season we are 5 rounds before end and I have 14points ahead of Arsenal...
here is my team:
gk: Cheh
rb: M. Richards (hope get Ramos)
lb: Cole
cb: Terry, Carvalio
dmc: Veloso
mc: Lampard, Essien (Lucho Gonzales)
amc: Kaka (but just got him in jan., Lampard, Deco and AGUERO played before him)
st: Drogba, Aguero, Robinho,(just got Ibarhimovic in jan.).
what patch are you using this tactic on? :)
9.3.0, of course
hello, thanks for the great tactic, its been working great for my real Madrid side ;). btw also used your 4-3-3 FM 08 tactic on my old Brentford save, i won the premier league twice ;)
Why does the wings have free roles?...
If using like C Ronaldo, heshould not have free role should he?...
Wich players are good for free roles, I know MEssi would be, probably also Silva and Mata... But Who else?
this probaly has nothing to do wth this topic but i hav done fm editor and done wat i wanted but how d i now get that into a game to play wth the changes
used with wigan...beat liverpool 3-1 hehe ... now 5th on table .. :) but downside ended my clean sheet streak but goin good so far :)
Vitialy, do you use any Opposition Instructions?
Also you should really thing posting on Sega games community forum?
http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18
it would get lots of feedback, and would really see if this tactic is good?
I would do it for you if you have no time?
looolll, most of you are very funny guys. You take teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc and say that this tactic is great. Well guys, with these teams if you lose, it will be a shame whatever the tactic you have, unless you have really used something veryyyyyy stupid.
Get a small team, use a tactic with the mid class players and then tell me if its great or not. :):):):)
Bariz
wuld this tactic tht vitaliy uses wuld it work for man utd im gonna try it but does any toher people have different tatctics i culd use thans banger
Dont understand the point of picking up tactics made by someone else,i think the all meaning and objective of FM is to create a team/tactic of your own,if you dont do that your not really enjoing it.Anyway,your tactic is very similar to the one i use with St-Ettiene,but i will like to make a small contribution,instead of taking the defensive line down on the away games,try doing the other way,keep it up away and drag it down at home.I noticed your two midfielders have FW Runs,do they have the team mentality or bellow and whats their usul rating? Cheers and good FM.
I used it with a relegated Godoy Cruz from Argentina, and I finished 4th in the Second League with a poor team.
This tactic really works. I will try it in the First Division now. Wish me luck xD
Thanks :)
wow dude this tactic is great thanks!!!
it's awesome
Anonymous,
you can make a post to community.sigames.com forums. But don't forget to indicate link on this page, OK?
luis,
I agree with you and vote always for development of own tactics.
hi vitaliy good tactic, i was wondering i you could reccomend any striker for 3 mil or under that plays well in this formation king keeps geting rating of 5 so does cousin ? i you reply put to macca at beginin plz thanks
Tried this with a poor Norwich side in the championship. Two failed play off finals later I'm finally in the prem with a great side. The only downside to this tactic is strikers don't tend to score that many goals... goals tend to come from all over, mainly from crosses and corners into the middle and DCs or MCs getting on the end of them.
Excellent tactic though.
hi i am portuguese and i am playing football manager 2009 since yesterday(only yesterday i had money to buy it)and i just wanna know if you can manager a team and a national team at the same time because in my psp in fm2008 it does( i am with FCPorto and Holland)
so does it?
Try replacing Hume with a recognised Center Forward or Big Target man e.g Jon Walters, Jo, or even Tim Cahill who i play upfront is very good in the air. Then play Direct or Long instead of Short Passing Style
GL with Hull
brilliant tactics, i am birmingham and i had real problems at first
. i beat man utd 2-1, and drew 2-2 with chelsea, with this tactic. the only thing is, the hard tackling for the wingerws has cost me a few games, dont put them on hard, change to normal. but fantastic, good luck with hull :)
Well, after almost a month using this tactic I had some great results.
I begin with Godoy Cruz in the Argentinian Second Division. The first season I get promoted, and I have 2 seasons in the first division to have a competitive team. Then I finished second twice.
Now I am with the West Browmich. It was relegated and I have promoted it, and won the EuroCup two seasons later. Now Im playing the ECC.
I don't made any modifications, but when I play against bigger teams, I use Counter Attack, and don't put forward runs to the left/right backs.
My team:
Ochoa
Jimmy Alexander - Alex Steer - Kes Kooistra - Paul Young
Brahim Soltani
Pendrey - Lozano
Danny Smith - Caner Erkin
Lee Rehman
Most of them are young, and were generated by the computer.
Thanks Vitaliy!
AMAZING .. thank you body. I'm applying ur tactic, I just wanna ask u, I've a good assistant manager, do I have to follow his feedback b4 the matches especially that every match is the same for closing the wingers and hard tackling and weaker foot for the striker ...
I qualified to CL because of this tactic ,, great one, but what i noticed and i dono if the creator here agree with me that playing for mid table teams like tottenham, Portsmouth etc with this tactic i can beat or at least get a draw with the big 4 teams in EPL easily but i struggle to win against westham Aston villa and these kind of clubs which is almost like me ..
Vitaliy,
i also play with a lone stricker but was wondering what player instructions you give your stricker. i've played to seasons with toulouse, Gignac as my main stricker and Larsen as back up but they never score a lot of goals. Finished 3rd and 2nd in first two seasons but both getting less than 20goals between them. so your help would be grealy appreciated. to start my 3rd season i have now bought maiga from le mans to see if he can change things round.
Cheers, Marc.
hallo
I`m from bosnia and playing menager since 99/00 sesason, i`ve managed a lot of teams, no matter ond the league...i agree with luis that everyone needs to deploy a their own tactics, not to copy somebody else...
to vitaly: i used this tactics with similar player assignments NOT SAME and i had a lot of problems, like a 0 0 results etc...so i switch to 4-1-2-1-2 diamond formation with and with a strong AMC (i used lampard, diego, van der vart...)i`ve made miracles...i think that yours tactics depends on players in your team, maybe your tactic is so good (i`ll try it) but if you dont have a good wings it just wont work...
Hey man.
I play this 4-1-2-2-1 too.
With Eto'o as striker (in some cases Bojan) do you expect this tactics would work?
In the real world, and according to player profiles, Barcelona is a typical possesion-football team. Or?
What's your thoughts on Barca with this tac?
hi, im from singapore. your blog is interesting and nice to read. gd work.Making me want to start a story about my fm but that will violated your copyright lol. I played fm10 chelsea, won the title without changing any tactics,only change formation.So i started playing unemploy, got hired by celano (italian c2 league). Got sacked on my sec season lol. any nice tactic to recommend for weak team?
Hi Vitaliy
another good work and great tactic. thanks mate
Will you make soon some tactic for FM2010?
Mido,
certainly! I work developing and tuning Leeds tactics. Quite soon there will be post about good FM 2010 tactics as a result
i manage man city and i have won the prmier league 5 times in a row
if anybody is hosting a network game i would like to join.
my email is ash-da-keeper@hotmail.co.uk
This tactic is awesome!!
Playing with Chelsea and after 12 games I won 10, drawed 1 and lost 1
Are five points ahead of Arsenal and six points ahead of Man U
Thank you very much
I have to say this tactic is superb! I took over managing Ivory Coast just before a World Cup, used this tactic, and won! Obviously having Drogba as your striker doesn't hurt any but I was just thrashing everyone!
I'm now trying it with my Southend United team where I want to have 2 strikers, mainly because I'd built my team on having 4 first team strikers that I rotate and I don't want to drop 2 of them in favour of a midfielder. I was already utilising a DMC and AMC, although playing them both in the MC position. So far, and I'm only in the friendlies stage of the season, everything is going well, so thanks very much.
Used this tactic for 3 different teams, Liverpool, Salisbury and England all with disasterous results. Wingers crossing rarely meant they always tried to jink into the box often getting disposessed in the process and losing at least 1 rating point a each compared with before as I used to score a lot from crosses.
And hard tackling??!!!! this doesn't work out well at all unless you want your key players badly injured early in the game and out of action for weeeks.
Finally, striker has stopped scoring almost completely which is baffling and in half time match analysis from my assistants there is now always a list of warnings as long as my leg.
work for fm 08? if doesn't work... please make a tactic for nottm. forrest in fm 08 pleaaaaaase